Shame On You America!

Rice and Powell Admitted Iraq Had No WMD in Feb. 2001!

Published on March 31, 2004 By mikimouse In Current Events

US personnel are being killed and gleefully dragged through the streets of Iraq's cities. These are civilians doing the dragging so one can't claim it's some enemy action or enemy induced. This is spontaneous reactions by Iraqi civilians who don't want the US in their country. No one ever claimed the Somalians actually welcomed the US. Why is the lie continuing about Iraq? The human cost is too much to continue like this.
http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/wounded/
These pawns responded to their country's call and receive nothing for their commitment and trust for their country. Some of them should never have been sent at all.
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20040312-042634-9733r
Rice and Powell admit Iraq was without WMD in Feb. 2001!
http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/powell-no-wmd.htm
an excerpt: "
We had a good discussion, the Foreign Minister and I and the President and I, had a good discussion about the nature of the sanctions -- the fact that the sanctions exist -- not for the purpose of hurting the Iraqi people, but for the purpose of keeping in check Saddam Hussein's ambitions toward developing weapons of mass destruction. We should constantly be reviewing our policies, constantly be looking at those sanctions to make sure that they are directed toward that purpose. That purpose is every bit as important now as it was ten years ago when we began it. And frankly they have worked. He has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors. So in effect, our policies have strengthened the security of the neighbors of Iraq..."
So there you have it. Will the 911 commission have the balls to ask about these statements they made in 2001 WHEN THEY WERE THE ONES IN THE KNOW AND IN CHARGE? Time will tell. I for one think it will be a very nice and smooth ride for Rice since the truth will set one free, and there's no room for freedom here anymore.

Comments (Page 2)

mikimouse

on Apr 01, 2004

I wish it were true but I hate polls since they can be manipulated constantly. I'm sure there are polls suggesting people who like to eat their own excrement are healthier than those who don't.

Anthony R

on Apr 01, 2004

I would post somthing about this, but I dont feel like getting Mickey moused around with.

messybuu

on Apr 01, 2004

So, you don't like polls, yet you know that those attacks are representative of Iraqis? I would like to know how you know that, and remember not to use polls either and just because one person says something does not mean it's representative of the entire society.

Draginol

on Apr 01, 2004

This guy's a waste of our time. He's just a mindless idealogue. When facts or evidence don't agree with him he just ignores them.

PoetPhilosopher

on Apr 01, 2004

Dude... you got the Drab Bore-well smack down!

mikimouse

on Apr 01, 2004

pardon Brad? That was dumb to say. Ignore what facts? How can you sit there saying that when you saw what the sentiment is towards Americans in Iraq. Are you saying you'd feel safe to be American in Iraq? Lmao. Look what happened then tell me I'm ignoring facts. What facts did you even spout? None?

new-age nomad

on Apr 01, 2004

Drab Bore-well smack down!

lmao!!!!!

Trinitie

messybuu

on Apr 01, 2004

I wouldn't feel safe in the poor (i.e. bad) part of town. Does that mean that all poor people are criminals, or that some of them are, and it's possible that they might not represent the entire society as a whole? Again, you have absolutely no evidence that the terrorists in Iraq represent the majority of Iraqi opinion.

Solitair

on Apr 02, 2004

mikimouse,

of course polls can be manipulated, that why I provided the link to the entire poll, not just the numbers I wanted to use. If you use the link you will see a detailed breakdown of which Iraqis were asked the questions and exactly what questions they were asked. You can also go through the data and extract results which you feel would highlight your arguement. 17% of Iraqis across the entire country may mean than in certain areas a majority may indeed support the disgusting scenes we saw on TV. In my belief though the poll is very valid and very representative. It does indicate that the vast majority of Iraqis oppose violence, though the majority also want the Americans out as soon as possible.

Paul.

mikimouse

on Apr 02, 2004

all I can say is that I hope things end up alright. The US should not be in Iraq. I agree with Clarke that it took away resources to go after the real enemies. Iraq had nothing to do with 911 so it's wrong to be there.

psychx

on Apr 02, 2004

They were doing just fine under the Baathist rule as Shites and Kurds were being ground under foot. I bet former Nazi's in Germany would have liked the US to leave too in 1945

Is it wrong to try and change a country for the better? Can anyone honestly say that changing the barbaric way of life they have been subjected to under Saddam's leadership is negative? Mikimouse do you think Germany France or even Japan would be better of today if the U.S. did not interfere during world war II? It's difficult to say what is right or wrong so how can you say it is definitely wrong and then back it up with only the facts that support your point ignoring other facts that contradict your point. Isn't that just standing on one side without taking into account both sides of the argument or like Brad said being biased? I hope things end up alright too because of the negative effects it has had on the U.S..

mikimouse

on Apr 02, 2004

I hope things end up alright too, of course. But with the constant references in the media about progress, and about how well the effort is going in Iraq I think it's all becoming clear that that is simply not the case. Look at what these people did to the dead bodies! Insane. That's hate in its purest form, and these are people who know it's against Muslim law to be doing that kind of stuff. They hate America so much they do it anyways, Muslim law be damned. Anyways they likely think they're doing 'allah' proud or something. As for what you said, I should refer you to my other thread but you can go to www.thememoryhole.org and find all you need to know about the US's support for Sadaam Hussein's ruthless policies. That's all the facts one needs to see any duplicity. Thanks for your comment as it was all true, per se.

psychx

on Apr 02, 2004

That's hate in its purest form, and these are people who know it's against Muslim law to be doing that kind of stuff. They hate America so much they do it anyways,

Ignorant people can be swayed to do anything and if ignorance breeds ignorance or in simpler words if they have known only one way of life and all their environment tells them that this one way is the only way to live how can they know if it is right or wrong. I don't think the Iraqi people really know what would be better for themselves. About the U.S. support from Saddam I have read up on it and have heard many extremists refer to it. It still doesn't change the fact that Saddam is better out of power.

mikimouse

on Apr 02, 2004

extremists? Meaning the logical thinkers who believe actions today have a direct corelation to the events of yesterday? And I think it's strange how you say the Iraqi people don't know what's best for them. I say that in light of the fact the US servicemen slaughtered like 18 of the residents 2 weeks after the war was over. One could argue that those few scared rattled GI's set the stage for the anger and hatred which erupted in Fallujah.

psychx

on Apr 02, 2004

I say that in light of the fact the US servicemen slaughtered like 18 of the residents 2 weeks after the war was over

My choice of using extemists was a little patronizing and I apologize but have you ever been to an under-developed country, educations is terrible they (potential terrorists) take these highly impressionable young men and brainwash them into believing that when they commit these acts they are fighting for their God. Mobs are easy to control and in Iraq they have been oppressed for a long time. I am more interested in fixing the situation now that Saddam is gone than to point fingers of what could have been done in the past. As far as U.S. service men slaughtered 18 that is nothing compared to the crimes commited by Saddam. I am not condoning what happened but I am looking at the overall picture for what is best for these people who have been oppressed for years. You like to manipulate statistics but you fail to look at the overall picture.

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